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Post by ludacris on Mar 4, 2009 16:17:35 GMT -5
That's a stupid thing to do since I thought we established I was a regular townie and this maffia work is the job of veterans.
How many people are left now?
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 4, 2009 17:53:45 GMT -5
LUDICRAS:
There are 3 people left: You - Ludicras, Nac Ranno and me Firehorse.
We could have a 3 way tie. I cannot see how Mafia can win this......but should we have a tie - Mafia gets an NK.
Then the last townie lynches the Mafia.
Unless I am missing something, which is possible - I don't want to risk a tie and possibly give which ever of you is Mafia the upper hand.
I intended to change my vote off Goltar however I'm in a different time zone and by the time I woke up it was jailed. Too late. I had no smoking gun thoughts of any of you but Nac leaped to the front of the pack.
Here are the scenarios from my stance:
1. Ludicras - you are Mafia and it was the game plan for 2 of you to take risks and finger point. The 3rd - purposely laid low all game - which you did.
2. Ludicras is not Mafia - just a slack *ss.
3. Nac Ranno is Mafia.
I'm inclined to believe a combination of the latter 2.
I had negative vibes about Noodle although worse vibes with Nac Ranno after yesterdays postings and reading all of Nac's posts since the game started.
So Ludicras or Nac?
LOCK VOTE NAC RANNO
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 4, 2009 17:54:31 GMT -5
LOCK VOTE: NAC RANNO I forgot the colon
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 4, 2009 17:58:38 GMT -5
To Ludicras: I think Nac is our last Mafia. However if he's not Kudos to you for a well played game. Go on vacation and come back a winner. I may try that strategy sometime on here or in real life. If Nac IS the Mafia like I suspect, we can pat ourselves on the back for either a well played game OR being too pathetic to be considered for NK. I think the latter quite likely.
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Post by ludacris on Mar 5, 2009 8:28:28 GMT -5
I don't know. You seem to draw attention away from you all the time, but Nac Ranno's vote on my was stupid. I want to hear his defense first.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 5, 2009 8:47:19 GMT -5
Ludicras, If you know you are Town, then I suggest you go back and read over the posts made by Nac & myself and judge.
That is what I did.
I will tell you why I am fairly convinced Nac is the last Mafia. If you Ludicras were Mafia you would jump on the chance that I offered to lynch Nac and NK me. Thus - you / Mafia would win.
Since you have not done that you are either a few clues short of a Colonel Mustard or you are Town!
If we lynch Nac, Town wins.
Do you think Ray was Mafia? I did - and voted for him 3 straight times. You may note I was first or one of the first to vote for him.
Goltar who was town suspected he had obtained reversed results. I agree with Goltar.
His findings are posted for your review.
Nac may mount a defense but I cannot see what. He may say I am suspicious or use subjective language. Look at the facts.
All the evidence points to you being my last co-ally as a fellow Townie.
I'm in the same position as you. Sitting here wondering which of you is Mafia and which is not.
Noodle who was TOWN investigated Ludicras & Firehorse and found us both to be Town.
So if you are Town........follow the logic and cast your vote accordingly.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 5, 2009 9:51:49 GMT -5
Nac runo, you are becoming more suspicious the more you post. The mafia obviously took out Nazdakka because he was the only person who could verify my role, leaving me dangerous but exposed. I'm sure I'll be the mafia's target for tonight's night kill, unless you are successful in lynching me during the day. If I'm lynched today, the mafia will have pretty much won. Vote: Nac RunoLudicras, read one of Noodle's final posts. If Mafia wins this game because of your continued pattern of non posting and subsequent non voting that would just suck.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 5, 2009 9:54:07 GMT -5
I investigated both Firehorse and ludacris, and neither of them had any activity. This makes me think they are likely to be townies. I investigated you, and saw Goltar leave something in your mailbox. You may believe you know his role as psychiatrist, but he may be so crazy that he's hiding his true inclination from even you. Only way I can make sense of this. Noodle was NK'd. Another good post to chew on Ludicras.
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Post by ludacris on Mar 5, 2009 10:41:09 GMT -5
I suspected Ray from the beginning as well. I only voted for him if i remember correctly. I must admit I never really thought you were mafia and Nac Runo was more suspicious. the obvious way to go would be to lynch nac so I will.
It sucked that I suddenly got very busy and missed most of the game. Let's hope I can be usefull after all.
Lock vote: Nac Runo
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Post by nolecub on Mar 6, 2009 11:14:04 GMT -5
Sorry for the delay, but my home comp died, and for some reason, I cannot log on to this site via laptop.
Anywho, with Nac heading to jail.........
The Mafia have been defeated. Gratz to the town.
Nac Runo - Godfather - sends in all night time instruction. Latter ability....able to call off a NK if he is being watched.
Goltar - Mafia Groupie - only knows Nac Runo, chance to be recruited into the mafia. Can only be recruited into Mafia if Nac Runo is jailed. (Wants to be the leader of the mafia).
soylentred - Mafia Martyr - yes.....the Mafia Bomber lives!!!!!
raypatean - Mafia Torturer - Mafia cop role.
Gorny - governor
sitro - Interrogator - role revelas after night in jail (passive ability)
noodle - Private Investigator - hired by News Reporter to watch nighttime activities. Both Investigator and Reporter receive this information
naz - Reporter - see above
sint - Locksmith - Role Blocker/Doctor - target is unable to perform any nighttime activity and also blocks any activity happening to them
I tried to make it hard for the town to win, but then Liquid comes out Day one and basically rattles off all the mafia.
soylent's no lynch play is what saved the mafia this game IMO.
It was fun hosting, and I hope everyone else enjoyed the game also.
Viva los townies!!!!!
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Post by Nac Runo on Mar 6, 2009 11:40:36 GMT -5
Well done townies for the win . I was almost sure that Liquid had a cop role; rereading the messages i still don't get how liq pointed a finger on ray that insistingly. Well done on that L_E. It is true that soy's no-lynch saved us, we might have actually won if goltar was not ambitious to take the head of the mafia. So he was not going to win by a direct mafia win after all. We only needed two incorrect lynches after soy's no lycnh but lack of communication between me and goltar coupled with clashing win conditions jeopardized our play. Nice last minute decision there Firehorse, i was relying on Noodle's last minute words so much that i didn't think they were to be regarded. And thanks to nolecub for hosting.
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Post by soylentred on Mar 6, 2009 11:47:57 GMT -5
Thanks for a great game Nole.
I have never been scum before - I liked it.
I had so much fun and the last 3 minutes of that one day were positively heart stopping for me. I did not know if I was allowed to vote for myself. If I messed up and got lynched with my vote on Ray I would have been killing us both out of the game.
My goal there was we really needed to save Ray another night so we could get another torture in and that one on Sitro was very useful. Once we NK'd him - no more role reveals for the town. I knew I was casting a lot of suspicion on myself by doing that so I had to come up with the funny valentine role.
Question for Goltar - why oh why did you not change your last vote and save yourself? The mafia would have had 2 votes of 4 the last day.
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Post by soylentred on Mar 6, 2009 11:59:34 GMT -5
Congratulations to the town. I don't know if you realize how close to being done you were. Congrats to the final four. Thanks to my scummy brother Ray and Nac - my godfather.
Goltar - did you pick up on the clues Ray and I were giving to say we with Nac and we knew you were the groupie?
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Post by Nazdakka on Mar 6, 2009 12:16:14 GMT -5
Well done town, and thanks to Nole for the host. Even though we had it sorted on the last day, it was somewhat tense - would Ludacris both show up and vote to lynch the only remaining suspect? Which side was Goltar on? Was he a mafioso before Nac Runo got jailed? I really didn't like the tie = no lynch rule. I'd rather see the game balanced by fewer townie power roles or other handicaps than allow the lynch to get negated quite so easily.
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Post by nolecub on Mar 6, 2009 12:24:05 GMT -5
Goltar was always on the mafia's side. He was able to send a message per night to Nac (through me). That is the note he was seen putting in the mailbox.
My original plan was to have a power struggle both within the mafia and the town, but didn't think we had enough for my intended "Lt. Governor" role.
One thing I saw as weird....I put everyone through the RNG at random.com to produce a seeding, then a produced another random string for the roles. Turns out, the first 4 that signed up were anti-town.
I was disappointed at the lack of false role claims the first couple of days. But the scum made up for that at the end, as each of them were claiming anything they could think of.
As I stated previously, the game was stacked against the town. I believe the town is 4-1 here in games now. The no-lynch rule is usually for mafia benefit.
Also, Nac has officially replaced Liq on my "must-be-lynched-if-still-alive-on-day-3-rule."
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