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Post by soylentred on Mar 22, 2009 19:54:38 GMT -5
Why do you say I managed to get Naz lynched - I was 3rd vote in and you started it? How does that get pinned on me? Plus I explained my rationale for that.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 23, 2009 0:18:27 GMT -5
Oh man oh man. I don't know what to think. I was going to switch my vote from Nazdakka to Ludicras however by the time I awaken day was over and Nazdakka lynched by a slim margin. I was also going to vote now. I have changed my mind.
To be perfectly honest I figure 1 of you 3 will win the game. I am somewhatr surprised I was not killed last night.
As the day ended my suspect list went like this:
1. Ludicras - most likely 2. Nazdakka 3. Noleclub 4. Soylent & Sint equally at the bootom
As I said I was too late to swap my vote onto Ludicras who I suspected with Naz but more than him.
Anyway - I want more discussion so will not vote for Nac Runo to hasten the end of the game.
Ludicras still has not voted and he may vote for me for all I know.
We have:
Sint - votes Ludicras Soylent votes Sint
I will go back over the posts and welcome defenses from all of you.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 23, 2009 0:19:21 GMT -5
argh - more typos, but I think you get the idea.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 23, 2009 2:17:18 GMT -5
THE TOWN:
1. MAFIA JANITOR - UNKNOWN 2. MAFIA POSTMAN - UNKNOWN 3. MAFIA PLAIN - Noodle 4. Vigilante - Muzz or UNKNOWN 5. TOWN Jailkeeper - Noleclub 6. TOWN Lie Detector - Jason 7. TOWN PLAIN - Muzz or Unknown 8. TOWN PLAIN - Firehorse 9. TOWN PLAIN - Nazdakka
Muzz's roll was sort of not clarified but I assume he was Plain Town.
That means we have 2 Mafia, the Vigilante and myself as the last normal town.
Noleclub was taken out ahead of me simply because he posed a greater threat and more of a bother to the Mafia.
With the rolls defined more on next post.......
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 23, 2009 2:27:24 GMT -5
Assuming Muzz was Plain Town and NOT the Vig.........
The scenarios:
#1 Soylent has claimed Plain Town. For that to be true Muzz was Vigilante.
And the final looks like this:
Ludicras & Sint - Mafia
Soylent & Firehorse - Town
#2 Soylent is actually Vigilante .
Soylent - Vigilante
Sint & Ludicras - Mafia
Firehorse - Plain Town
Muzz was Town
#3 I am dismissing the Soylent & Sint Mafia combo simply because these 2 have been at each other's throats all game. That means Ludicras cannot be Vigilante. And since I know I am Town - he MUST be one of the last 2 Mafia.
So one of Sint of Soylent is the Vig. And the other Mafia.
In all 3 scenarios Ludicras is deemed to be Mafia.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 23, 2009 2:46:07 GMT -5
Some Facts:
1. Sint did not want me to vote Jason. (Jason was Town) Pro Sint 2. Soy first vote on Naz - not lynched (Naz Town ) Pro Mafia 3. Sint & Soy are on opposing sides (At least 1 should be Town) 4. Soy suspects Naz & Noodle ~~~~~ More Town than Mafia.....but weak evidence 5. Firehorse 1st vote on Noodle (Mafia) Pro Town 6. Post #71 Sint strongly opposes my vote on Noodle who was Mafia - Pro Mafia on Sint here 7. Noleclubs's order Ludicras, Soy, Sint, Noodle. I am last left at bottom of that list. Noleclub our Power Townie pegged the top 3 as Mafia. Aside from myself only these 3 remain.
8. Sint suspected Soy & Naz as Mafia. (Pro Mafia since Naz was Town - but weak evidence against Sint)
9. Soy did not buy Noleclub's role claim. She was wrong (Pro Mafia)
10. Soylent - 2nd vote on Noodle (This is a curious vote. IMO this errs on the side of town, and as a Vig it would work to her favour.
11. Noodle tried to drum up an attack on Soylent. Noodle was Mafia. (Pro Town here for Soy)
So after a thorough review here is my educated guess:
1. SINT - MAFIA - King Pin Drug Lord Pimp & Montreal Canadiens fan (Thats as low as you can get)
2. Ludicras - Environment saving Greenpeace Mafia member who dislikes turning on his computer to save energy which explains his infrequent posting!!!
3. Soylent - The Vig in High Heels and a skirt with erratic behaviour. She was individualistic this game and had no allies.
4. Firehorse - Town Drunk who slept through the whole thing.
I'm voting against the one person who I feel is guaranteed Mafia.
So I'd say Solyent our Vig should win the game. Ludicras is lynched, Sint NK's me and Soy lynches Sint.
Unless.........something radical changes. But nothing RADICAL ever changes in the Town.
Or Does it!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE: LUDICRAS
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 23, 2009 2:58:57 GMT -5
The one perplexing question in all of this is...............IF Sint is Mafia, - and Ludicras as Well, WHY - did Sint come out fast and cast the first vote upon Ludicras? Why not vote for me or Soylent. Given his opposition to Soylent he could easily mask the attack upon Soylent as Pro Town.
~~~~~~~~ Radical Changes~~~~~~~~~ are always an option...........
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Post by ludacris on Mar 23, 2009 3:24:24 GMT -5
I'm not maffia. The reason I am keeping low is because I did not want the actual maffia to know I am the vigilante. Let me explain. In this game where a wrong townie lynch, an NK and a wrong vigilante kill could lose the game for the townies I wanted to be sure on my NK's.
I did not act earlier on simply because of that. I do however had a strong feeling that soy was maffia. However Nole did block me, twice. So in the last two nights my attempt to NK Soy did not go through. I have no solid explanation as to why there was no maffia NK that night. But perhaps the disguised postman was switching their NK target with me and since I was blocked their NK was blocked. Nole then said he blocked me so they targeted someone else to switch and their NK went through while my vigilante kill was blocked again.
About my suspicion for targeting soy. Sint & Soy were definitely out there doing their thing. Creating confusion and making sure everyone heard their opinion. With Noodle laying low this would be a valid tactic. I noted soy made some weird decisions leading to townie lynches and was quick to dismiss his role in it. I wasn't quite sure about him in my first NK attempt, but I got blocked and he lived. He then helped lynching nazz who was town. So I though I'd target him again but got blocked again. This time I hope he won't get away. As for his partner, most likely sint but I'm not as certain about that as I am about soy.
Depending on the responses to this post I should make out who to NK tonight.
Vote: Soy
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Post by sint on Mar 23, 2009 4:13:30 GMT -5
unvote ludicrasvote soyFor the win. Thanks guys
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Post by Nac Runo on Mar 23, 2009 5:16:37 GMT -5
For the win. Thanks guys The round is over. Congratulations to the mafia for a well played game . I was the one to block NK of both Vigilante and Mafia on night 1 (they were told about this). I thought it would only be fair for the town to give them a head start. I didn't want to announce this so that the confusion might be used by mafia but it became more of an advantage than i assumed for. Even though mafia started with 3 out of 9 players and won the game, i think it was still a balanced game due to exitance of early dying pro-town roles . Mafia also had luck on their side this round imo. I thought with the existance of both Vigilante and Postman roles, the confusion would be aganist both town and mafia but it didn't work quite as good as i predicted. The roles: Jason: Lie Detecter - He couldn't find a chance to use his ability. He was sposed to send me a messsage typed by a forum member every night, and i was going to tell him if the content of message was a lie or not. He was going to lose his abilities if he claimed his role. nolecub: Jailkeeper - Nothing more than he said, he couldn't protect himself but was able to put any other player in the jail even for consecutive days. He targeted Jason, Sint, Ludacris, Ludacris in this order. Muzzz: Vigilante - Too bad he also couldn't find a chance to use his ability. In fact he was forced to kill one person each day, but had the flexibility to perform a daykill instead of a NK (with some risks). 2nd Night he chosed to save his bullet for the day but got killed himself instead. ludacris: Disguised Postman Noodle: Plain Mafia Sint: Janitor Nac.
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Post by ludacris on Mar 23, 2009 5:56:12 GMT -5
I made up that story for nothing Oh well better play safe then not.
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Post by soylentred on Mar 23, 2009 6:03:54 GMT -5
NAC
Sint did not unvote Ludacris before he voted me
We had 2 votes Ludacris and 2 on me
First to the tie is lynched - that makes Ludicris.
and now 3
unvote: Sint vote: Ludacris
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Post by soylentred on Mar 23, 2009 6:04:36 GMT -5
ooops sorry he did - GG
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Post by soylentred on Mar 23, 2009 6:27:21 GMT -5
Can someone please explain why blocking/protecting Ludacris resulted in no lynch? That would only work if the other mafia was inactive. Was Sint the inactive mafia and not Naz as I thought?
Ludacris looked like the target in that scenario.
Fire for the town to win today - you and I had to come out of the gate and both vote against one of them. The first tie of two votes on one of them would have been enough. We of course could not PM at night and get this strategy going for us for daybreak.
Sorry Nole for not believing you - I just saw Ludacris as the target town.
I trusted Sint from the beginning and for too long.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 23, 2009 6:36:09 GMT -5
Day ended rather quickly. It just started??? I never agreed to a fast end simply because I was asleep for most of this last day because I live on the other side of the world......sheesh. Was hoping Soylent would have posted.
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