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Post by soylentred on Apr 22, 2009 15:04:29 GMT -5
Tell me if as discussed we are all going to investigate the same person. Won't the lone mafia lie about their results?
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Post by soylentred on Apr 22, 2009 15:16:02 GMT -5
I may not get on again if day is ending in 2 hours but I promise I will send in a target for investgation.
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Post by nolecub on Apr 22, 2009 15:18:45 GMT -5
Right now there are 3 scenarios (from my point of view):
muzzz is lying
water_moon is lying
soy is lying
This is a very interesting logic problem. It is compounded by the fact that soy did not investigate anyone (or just come out and make something up if she is mafia).
Throw in the fact that all we know about firehorse is that he was a cop, and I am leaning more and more to a crap shoot in a lynch tomorrow.
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Post by water_moon on Apr 22, 2009 15:33:16 GMT -5
We have about 2 1/2 hours if my calculations are correct. And it'd be good if we corrdinate an investigation of the same person or people so we can use the logic tables to figure out who has what cop role.
What exactly are you confused about? The roles? read the role outline. 1 cop gets right answers (sane), 1 get's all mafia (paranoid), 1 gets all innocent (naive), and 1 get opposites (insane).
Muzz's tables? Basic "what we know" due to logical elimination. (Muzz and I got guilty, therefore we can not be the naive cop. Firehorse cannot kill himself and there for I can't have gotten the correct response thus I'm not sane, leaving paranoid or insane. Etc.) and attempts to work out secnerios (o/c while he can assume he's not mafia, we can not, though we can switch ourselves in at that point.)
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Post by water_moon on Apr 22, 2009 15:41:25 GMT -5
Won't the lone mafia lie about their results? Ahhhh! but they have to guess what role Firehorse had! You see, every person will get 2 town reads and 2 guilt reads. We already have some info to go on (that's why who you investigated was so important) so if I investigate nolecub and he turns up innocent, I must be insane and he must be mafia. But if I get he's guilty, we don't know anything extra unless you investigate him, and muzz get's an investigation in. But one of us will die tonight (or nole will if he's innocent) and we're still lacking info.
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Post by water_moon on Apr 22, 2009 15:50:13 GMT -5
And if he's innocent, we still have to narrow down suspects. *sigh*
I think we might do best with me and soy investigating nole, and nole and muzz investigating soy. That way we get a better read than totaly random and no one is redundent. The down side is I can't find one research grouping that will tell us everything about everyone left. What am I missing?
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Post by muzzz on Apr 22, 2009 17:42:33 GMT -5
Nothing, as far as I can tell. I was about to suggest what you did, or a similar setup with you and Nole switched. I think those two setups have the best balance between focus and safety.
I say we go with W_M's suggestion.
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Post by Nac Runo on Apr 22, 2009 19:12:44 GMT -5
Day 2 is over, the new day will dawn in 23 hours.
Good night. Nac
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Post by Nac Runo on Apr 23, 2009 16:23:22 GMT -5
Night two is over and the last day of the round dawns. Muzzz is found to be killed. You have almost 50 hours to kill the dirty cop among yourselves.
Have fun. Nac.
PS: I am ending the night a bit earlier than i was supposed to but the day ends at its normal time.
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Post by soylentred on Apr 24, 2009 10:42:56 GMT -5
I investigated Nole and he came up as normal cop.
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Post by water_moon on Apr 24, 2009 16:58:48 GMT -5
I got guilty on nole so either I'm paranoid or soy is mafia.
Just for the heck of it, what did you get nole?
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Post by nolecub on Apr 24, 2009 17:18:57 GMT -5
Well, I investigated dear ole muzzz. And my investigation showed that he was......
The Wicked Cop (Mafia)
Well, since he is dead, that means he was really a good cop.
Night one showed w_m to be townie and since I now have 2 conflicting reveals (1 townie, 1 mafia) that must mean that I am the insane cop (receive the opposite of the truth).
Therefore....
Vote:water_moon
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Post by water_moon on Apr 24, 2009 17:57:26 GMT -5
Interesting how you wait 'til after everyone else comes out.
But I'm far more concerned that you "have a way to determine who's mafia" all set up. AFTER ignoring a plan agreed on and that the rest of us followed. Too convient as far as I'm concerned.
Muzz did find you as guilty day one, and being dead rather supports his innocennce if not his state of mind. But if he were sane and got a read on soy of innocent, you would be in a much tighter position, it's much easier to just off him.
If muzzz WAS sane, then soy is naive, I'm paranoid, and firehorse would have been insane.
It's not retaliation on the last day. You be the judge of mafia soy. Vote: Nole
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Post by nolecub on Apr 24, 2009 18:13:24 GMT -5
Nice of you to go from paranoid and soy is mafia to Nole is the mafia. Your 2 posts contradict yourself.
I dont have, as you say, a way to determine who is mafia all set up. Just stating the facts and from my investigations, that is the only logical conclusion.
But alas, soy, it is in your hands.
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Post by soylentred on Apr 24, 2009 21:15:02 GMT -5
I got guilty on nole so either I'm paranoid or soy is mafia. Just for the heck of it, what did you get nole? Why does that make you paranoid or me mafia and not me paranoid and you mafia - kind of a blanket misleading statement there. That really makes me suspicious of you trying to hang something on me that I know is not true.
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