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Post by ludacris on Mar 17, 2009 6:53:47 GMT -5
That was a very interesting day end that we had. I hope no one is going to pin that 4 way tie on me. Sint you were questioning the usefulness of that 4 way tie. I found it very useful. Unless I am seriously deluded I now have a very good opinion of who I can trust in this game. What was usefull about it? How can you know who you can trust by now?
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Post by nolecub on Mar 17, 2009 8:09:21 GMT -5
I am back.
As stated by me previously, I am unable to log on to this site at home, therefore I was unable to vote on Day 1. Not much conversation to go on anyway.
On to today....
Soy - I am not pinning the no lynch on you soy. There were many options on the table, but the lack of participation on day 1 was unavoidable it seems. My question to you....Why the early vote on Naz?
firehorse - You are very much more active this game than previous ones. IIRC, none of those games you were mafia. The change in play style is alarming to me.
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Post by nolecub on Mar 17, 2009 8:12:37 GMT -5
Now some day 1 analysis -
There was entirely too much conversation concerning the lack of a NK and the special roles. My question to those that did contribute to the conversation is this: How is this helpful in finding a mafia lynch target? IMO, this conversation steers the town away from finding mafia, and instead helps the mafia weed out the town power roles.
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Post by soylentred on Mar 17, 2009 8:13:41 GMT -5
That was a very interesting day end that we had. I hope no one is going to pin that 4 way tie on me. Sint you were questioning the usefulness of that 4 way tie. I found it very useful. Unless I am seriously deluded I now have a very good opinion of who I can trust in this game. What was usefull about it? How can you know who you can trust by now? Hmmmm we are not allowed to post what we received in our initial role PM so I don't know how much I can say here. I am thinking there is a core group of townies who may have the same information I do and I hope I have interpreted it correctly. What I am seeing is a very simplistic answer but it is all I have to go on right now.
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Post by soylentred on Mar 17, 2009 8:17:06 GMT -5
I am back. Soy - I am not pinning the no lynch on you soy. There were many options on the table, but the lack of participation on day 1 was unavoidable it seems. My question to you....Why the early vote on Naz? Based on my very simplistic reasoning of how I think the game is set up I think I have identified a core group of townies and I don't think Naz is one of them. I also don't think Noodle is so I could switch my vote to him also. Where is Noodle?
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Post by nolecub on Mar 17, 2009 8:24:15 GMT -5
I am comfortable with lynching Noodle today.
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Post by soylentred on Mar 17, 2009 8:39:33 GMT -5
firehorse - You are very much more active this game than previous ones. IIRC, none of those games you were mafia. The change in play style is alarming to me. Nole, tell me when have you ever seen a mafia scum be the first to vote?
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Post by nolecub on Mar 17, 2009 8:42:52 GMT -5
All the time. Someone has to be sacrificed.
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Post by FIREHORSE on Mar 17, 2009 9:13:41 GMT -5
Noleclub it only seems like I posted a lot cause nobody else posted! ~~~~ Fair question but though.
No word from Noodle. There is very little to go on.
VOTE: NOODLE
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Post by nolecub on Mar 17, 2009 9:19:53 GMT -5
Soy - You mentioned in a earlier post that you now know who you could trust. Who are your top 3 suspects at the moment? With a 4/3 game at the moment, you should be able to nail the mafia down right now.
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Post by soylentred on Mar 17, 2009 9:30:19 GMT -5
Yah that sounds good - I list 3 suspects and if I am wrong and they are town - mafia jumps on and says - yes lets go against that group and end the game right now.
I have my own personal list of trusted I am working on - I think it is too early to share.
Nole - I have been waffling between Noodle and you - love how you jumped on my Noodle selection.
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Post by sint on Mar 17, 2009 9:42:03 GMT -5
This'll be a long one, I'm posting from work and have to start a meeting soon, but I'll do my best. I never expected that either. 9 people. FIVE non voters??? WTF is up with that? Can we say WTF on here? Looks like we are down 4-3? 4 Town only? Not good odds. Once I saw Jason was mafia obviously this will be an uphill battle for the town. We need postings. The point I felt about going after a non poster was to generate discussion. I won't cast my vote yet. @ Noodle why have you not posted? Nazdakka & Noleclub why not vote? I think I agree fully here. There was quite the lack of play yesterday and lack of votes. The 4-way tie was basically not usefull. Now some day 1 analysis - There was entirely too much conversation concerning the lack of a NK and the special roles. My question to those that did contribute to the conversation is this: How is this helpful in finding a mafia lynch target? IMO, this conversation steers the town away from finding mafia, and instead helps the mafia weed out the town power roles. Alright, but the problem here is..... *bing* what did YOU do to actively find mafia or contribute to a discussion not concerning lack of NK/special role? Oops.. nothing. How about you come up with a plan then or a good subject to talk about? What was usefull about it? How can you know who you can trust by now? Hmmmm we are not allowed to post what we received in our initial role PM so I don't know how much I can say here. I am thinking there is a core group of townies who may have the same information I do and I hope I have interpreted it correctly. What I am seeing is a very simplistic answer but it is all I have to go on right now. You actually made a half-claim here? It's basically easy, with 4 town and 3 mafia, how about you just say who you think is town and by elimination who is mafia. I am comfortable with lynching Noodle today. Why? That was a very interesting day end that we had. I hope no one is going to pin that 4 way tie on me. Sint you were questioning the usefulness of that 4 way tie. I found it very useful. Unless I am seriously deluded I now have a very good opinion of who I can trust in this game. vote nazdakka Yes, I questioned the usefullness. And still do. About the voting and the 4-way tie comming up, yeah that's not bad, gave everyone not voting a chance to see what's going on and a choice to vote who-ever was most suspicious. BUT wihout additional votes the tie didn't tell us much. Especially since the vote for jason was pretty crude, the vote for sint was pretty much without reason and the vote for soy and fire were not too well reasoned either. What it told me was that fire slacked off and the people not voting were either missing or content with the vote on jason. Which basically tells me nothing still, seeing how everyone was missing. Nole, tell me when have you ever seen a mafia scum be the first to vote? Yay for reverse psychology.. Now for my list. I would rather NOT lynch people who haven't posted or who posted a lot. That may seem strange but yesterday we exactly how the mafia wanted it, so I guess they didn't post much or tried to blend in. Noodle - didn't post Soylentred - posted much nolecub - didn't post muzzz - dead Firehorse - sint - me Jason - dead ludacris - Nazdakka - Now that I think of it. There are 7 people left, excluding myself (I am town ty..) that means 3/6 is mafia. I'd say 1 is hiding in the non-posters (nole/noodle) and 2 among soy/fire/luda/naz. I would rather NOT pick between nole/noodle right now. If we lynch one and hit mafia then great! but, it still won't help us a thing.. seeing how there's no information to go by. On the other hand, I want to really ask them to play the game and post more... please? Hm.. I have to go right now, meeting is started, but before I leave (on preview) I really dislike the vote on noodle firehorse. You did exactly the same thing yesterday.. what's up? Yah that sounds good - I list 3 suspects and if I am wrong and they are town - mafia jumps on and says - yes lets go against that group and end the game right now. I have my own personal list of trusted I am working on - I think it is too early to share. Nole - I have been waffling between Noodle and you - love how you jumped on my Noodle selection. This is a decent post. I'd like at least some information though... How about sharing one person who's on your town list?
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Post by nolecub on Mar 17, 2009 9:52:43 GMT -5
Please don't waffle soy, it doesn't become you.
Anyway, my vote today is going to be on you.
You make mention of your role PM. Why?? Where is the pressure for you to role claim at this point. You have no votes on you, and very little activity at this time. That is strike 1.
Your first vote of the day is for Naz, for no reason. Then you say you can be switched to Noodle. Now you say you can switch to me. All with no reasoning behind them. That is strike 2.
Your day one drivel was not about finding mafia, but rather speculating about role blocking/ block switching and townie/mafia ratio. If we are in a dire situation, then withholding your suspect list does nothing for the town. Strike 3.
Vote: Soylentred
Sint posted as I was reviewing. I have stated the reason for me being inactive on day 1. If that paints me as mafia, so be it.
Suggested lynch order (in order of mafia worthiness):
Soylentred ludacris sint noodle firehorse nazdakka nole
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Post by soylentred on Mar 17, 2009 10:32:53 GMT -5
You actually made a half-claim here? It's basically easy, with 4 town and 3 mafia, how about you just say who you think is town and by elimination who is mafia. Why? Yah that sounds good - I list 3 suspects and if I am wrong and they are town - mafia jumps on and says - yes lets go against that group and end the game right now. I have my own personal list of trusted I am working on - I think it is too early to share. Nole - I have been waffling between Noodle and you - love how you jumped on my Noodle selection. This is a decent post. I'd like at least some information though... How about sharing one person who's on your town list? Sint I don't believe I even made half of a role claim. I said I believe I was given information in my PM and if other town got the same message then they are behaving the same way I am and I have a good feeling who I can trust. So far I believe I can trust you. I am tending to trust Firehorse - and for those saying his vote was hasty and then he slacked off. Pay attention - he comes out and votes quickly because as he said he is asleep in his coffin while we are up - he is in another time zone and misses day end all the time. The people I am not trusting so far are Naz, Nole, and Noodle. Nole jumping the vote onto me is just making it worse. I do believe I will be NK tonight.
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Post by nolecub on Mar 17, 2009 10:37:16 GMT -5
Why would you believe you would be NK'd?
My problem with you soy, is not the information you say is in your PM, but rather you bringing it up in the first place.
I believe that you were trying to role claim, have been called out on it, and now are trying to dance your way out of it.
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