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Post by nolecub on Nov 25, 2008 15:23:52 GMT -5
bassano - I did not become nervous after jrla's posts. I just picked up on some of his wording that makes me think he is scum. I could be wrong about him, wouldn't be the first time.
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Post by goltar on Nov 25, 2008 15:43:26 GMT -5
This is starting to set off some triggers. @le: Im so sorry to bother you with my lesserness again, but I have enjoyed our last conversation way too much to resist. And of course, I love stupid questions. Is sint a mafia?This raised an eyebrow. Care to say what this conversation was about? Because, you know, it would be really smug (witty?) if you 2 were mafia, that conversation was night 1 deliberations, and your question was an ironic remark on Sint's mistaken target for a lynch. Now that I read this once more, it makes an awful lot of sense. Vote: skiffczI'm getting the impression that both skiffcz and ricrestoni (and others) are getting the hang of working through the tangle that is a mafia game. However, skiffcz seems fairly clean to me, while ricrestoni seems to be attempting to hide something. I'm not sure what at this time, but the odds are that it's not something that will benefit the town. So with that in mind, while it's a bit earlier than I normally like to vote on Day 1: Vote: ricrestoni
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Post by ricrestoni on Nov 25, 2008 16:26:04 GMT -5
@skiff - Asking me if I am Mafia just to reiterate it as an innocent question seemed more like a diversion from the point I raised rather than an honest-to-God rhetorical question. But if you must get an answer, I am a hard-working, tax-paying, as-vanilla-as-we-get townie. My question remains: What was the last conversation with LE you have enjoyed? My vote remains unless you give me an answer above suspicion. goltar - now that was quite unexpected. One might assume that, since I am new, I am lost as to how things work in here. I, however, might have hit the gold. And if I did, you just raised yourself into my list. Sorry, "he is hiding something that's up to no good" is hardly enough to justify a vote, much less an early one. Sounded more like an attempt to draw the fire away from my target. Now I know my point is weak at least to grasp on, but it remains so far.
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Post by jrlafrance on Nov 25, 2008 16:34:03 GMT -5
goltar - now that was quite unexpected. Haha! A small ego bruising quirk in the game that will Heal with time ricrestoni. The more you watch this game, you'll see that any little thing you type can be skewed in any numerous ways, depending on who is reading it! I'm sure you've seen such misinterpretations even in the SPF, but here, where there is a game of deception afoot, it is even more amplified!
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Post by muzzz on Nov 25, 2008 17:12:10 GMT -5
I have named one person. You did eight. No reasoning whatsoever. Just a list. I said I'd list half the town, didn't I? Bob is on the list because he contributed exactly one word so far. Sint because he tried to downplay his own experience. Ricrestoni is mostly a gut feeling. Now that I seem to have your attention, what are your opinions on Nole and Jason?
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Post by jrlafrance on Nov 25, 2008 17:18:48 GMT -5
It sure would be nice to hear from the players who haven't posted yet:
Merlin The Wizzard Waspinator
If nothing else, just to know that they are playing!
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Post by sint on Nov 25, 2008 17:19:52 GMT -5
Sigh.. less time makes for ugly quote posts: Perfectly PC answer Sint, thank you! Heh, dunno what you mean with PC I'll make that list, but alright, I'll hold off for LE. Oh and golt is ok because of the timeframe. Easy enough, he knows about the randomvotes, tells others and gives time to reply. --- (work? .. ah crap, I have checked your SPF activity... I confess) Yes. That's not a reason, that's an excuse. You better have a good reason to vote next time. No, I don't know. How about you get to the case and state who you think are mafia instead of trying to make people say things. Once is good, twice is ok, three times is just trying to lure people out and trying to look good yourself. I'll let LE tackle you on the part where you try to explain why you thought he's a vet. Amusing stuff. --- Sorry, ''he is hiding something that's up to no good''; is hardly enough to justify a vote, much less an early one. Sounded more like an attempt to draw the fire away from my target. I can't count the times I've played mafia games that were won by gut feeling. Saying someone is on your suspicion list because he thinks you are suspicious is way too easy to see trough. ''Oh my, he's after me, I better retaliate before people take him seriously.'' --- Before I forget. I got the question if the hidden town role would be powerful. Noodle said on the subject: ''uh, dunno''. Ray said before that: ''I'm thinking 5-6 mafia, leaning towards 6....''. Which gives me two things. 1) Yes I think the hidden town powerrole is powerful. With 5 mafia (6 is even worse) the anti-town has a rediculously big block in town. It's a 2:1 ratio at the very least right now, which will give only a few days ''relax'' playing time and almost none if we don't hit a mafia on day one or two. The hidden town powerrole must be comparable to the cop in power at the least IMO to give the town some breathing space. 2) ray, did I miss where you told us the amount of mafia, or is ''5 or 6'' the final answer? --- On to the questions. w_m, what's your read on noodle? jason, do you think someone is hiding behind a ''newbie-status''? wasp, can you ask bob a question regarding gameplay so far? skiff, who is more townie looking to you: ric or zefi? bass, who is more mafia looking to you: goltar or jrla?
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Post by water_moon on Nov 25, 2008 17:40:18 GMT -5
@ Water_moon- Who are you roleplaying this round and why? Myself, or at least a personafication, because as much as I enjoy RPing (thumbs up to jason) I have other more pressing bussiness (ack! holidays?! already?!? where the heck did my year go?!?!?!) to deal with. As for my spouse radar, it's working (though it's never 100% trustworthy, she is a woman)... hey! You said you wanted leftovers, well you'll just have to deal with a casserole that takes up space in the fridge then! wait... some how that doesn't seem quite right.... You'll just have to finish off the ice cream then! Errr, that didn't work either... Is it just me or did the sun seem to come up a little late this morning? Mmm... perhaps I just need stronger coffee. nope, we call that "winter" (and yes we have Doctorates of Philospohy in addition to Medicine (and a bunch of other bizzare stuff)) My real question for you: who's Boris? next time I will be more precious huh? bassano hun, while we are all precious in our own ways, your way is gonna make my head hurt isn't it? Just make a double post if you feel the need to clairify or add to what you said. P.S. Sint is a math teacher, did you know that? They dont do random There's true "random" and there's "no discernable pattern". For our intents and purposes there's no real difference. Unless it comes to who got what role... superstition is a POWERFUL force. Take a look at the last mafia game here with 'Mr. T' as the doctor and all the "foo's" being thrown about. the real Mr. T hid behind a little old lady wig, I might add. But far more important frankly, IT'S FUN!!!!! I've done it nearly every round. @w_M & Nac: bold words. Assuming Liq is alive and unconfirmed by day 3, will you be making a serious attempt to get him lynched? I wasn't joking when I said I saved him last round so I could lynch him myself. I was right that he had a role. And he's DANGEROUS. If I feel that danger is to the town I will work to put him down like I would a mad dog. @skiff: If you've read up on past rounds you'd have seen something important. Liquid gave away the power to his reasoning ability. He reads every post twice: once assuming mafia and once assuming townie. Other people have taken that and run with it, there are several very astute players, Liquid's just the loudest. As I read YOUR posts, the tone went less from mistaken assumptions to intentional misdirection (al la the claim of assingning mafia roles to older players, thereby suggesting the new guys are clear) with a bit of attempted backing up. Add in that the night kill was smart, but not brilliant* and that leaves me suspecting the mafia is either VERY crafty, or not as practiced as they should be. vote:skiffcz*a great baddie would have taken out one of the pairs; Jason/Maati, goltar/w_m, wasp/LE; in the hopes that they could throw suspicion on to the pair left over. Or if they're one of the pair members, so that not only would they have less "RL radar" to contend with but so that they could claim frame-age.
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Post by skiffcz on Nov 25, 2008 17:52:04 GMT -5
skiffcz: did you play mafia game in RL almost once? Lot of times. But I admit, we were much more drunk. Every time I guess And p.s. - I dont get nervous that easily @skiff - Asking me if I am Mafia just to reiterate it as an innocent question seemed more like a diversion from the point I raised rather than an honest-to-God rhetorical question. But if you must get an answer, I am a hard-working, tax-paying, as-vanilla-as-we-get townie. My question remains: What was the last conversation with LE you have enjoyed? My vote remains unless you give me an answer above suspicion. Well, I have asked you the same question as two other people before you. And it is not a rhetorical question. I want to point finger and confront - then see the reaction (form, the content is fairly irrelevant, thats why I dont care you will say what I know you will say, Im after HOW you say it) - then let my intuition decide whether the reaction was "right" or there was something rotten in it. There just happen to be two most direct ways how to do it. Vote or simply ask. Oh, and this statement is not just for you, I hope the audience is listening. That's not a reason, that's an excuse. You better have a good reason to vote next time. No really. It is a reason. Explained erlier in this post. I work this way. No, I don't know. How about you get to the case and state who you think are mafia instead of trying to make people say things. Fair enough. And only fair answer is - I dunno. Thats why am I asking. In fact, in my opinion, everyone is mafia until proven otherwise. So Im collecting whitelist rather than blacklist. There are like 1-2 people on it so far. Not enough to reveal it yet. I'll let LE tackle you on the part where you try to explain why you thought he's a vet. Amusing stuff. I said he is badboy? Quote. I just said he is too dangerous to let him live unless we are absolutly certain he is town, and that is true. And Im not the only one with this opinion. skiff, who is more townie looking to you: ric or zefi? Zefi- insufficient data. ric- mafia, until proven otherwise. And he should better try hard.
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Post by water_moon on Nov 25, 2008 17:55:17 GMT -5
w_m, what's your read on noodle? Unclear. He, and several others, are lost in the banter. One post of content is hardly enough to cry foul or fair. I don't find it a point of concern just yet seeing as we're only half way though the day, but I do expect to see something as this afternoon wears on.
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Post by sint on Nov 25, 2008 18:09:24 GMT -5
And Im not the only one with this opinion. Too easy? Yep. Or what? .... but I do expect to see something as this afternoon wears on. You expect an event to happen? You expect something from noodle? You expect more banter?
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Post by skiffcz on Nov 25, 2008 18:09:24 GMT -5
al la the claim of assingning mafia roles to older players, thereby suggesting the new guys are clear I didnt know about the random assigning. In fact, in RL, we dont assign roles to newbies, until they know the game enough to fully exploit them. I took it somehow for granted, until guys pointed out my fail
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Post by bassano on Nov 25, 2008 18:12:39 GMT -5
@water_moon: precious I mean that next time I will make double post a place of edit post skiffcz: I know that games just after couple of beers ;D I only wants know what I can expected from you beacuse you change opinions very often as voting,unvoting,.. sint: goltar for now wrote only few about his opinions for other players and jrlfrance seems more offensive but if you wants hear only name without explanation I say goltar jrl seems more like some hidden role and why you asked me exacctly for jrl vs goltar? you wants know my reaction or my opinion? and for you is more mafia L_E or water_moon?
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Post by skiffcz on Nov 25, 2008 18:20:08 GMT -5
sint: Or he stays at the blacklist. @ric: I still owe you that conversation. Sr, long reply chain, forgot to do that. Me: Are you maf? LE: No. (I introduced to you, you introduced to me. It was a very good conversation )
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Post by goltar on Nov 25, 2008 18:25:23 GMT -5
goltar - now that was quite unexpected. One might assume that, since I am new, I am lost as to how things work in here. I, however, might have hit the gold. And if I did, you just raised yourself into my list. A bit defensive for a reason? Anyway, fair enough. If by later today you can convince me you're townie, I'll withdraw my vote. But if skiff turns up town like my gut is telling me he will, then you're next. And if he shows mafia, feel free to go after me all you want. If you can make a good enough case, I might even help out in getting myself lynched. No promises there though, I'd rather play than watch.
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